composite chiron in 12th house composite chiron in 12th house

What is the difference between Midpoint and Davison as Your opinion? Eventually, some of their views may clash and this can . I am a strong 12th houser myself and it meant so much to me that we could live together and I never felt my precious solitude was infringed upon. Am I right in deducing that this relationship is more of an initiation? It isnt every case that the couple with a strong 12th house will break up. Composite Venus In 12th House With Composite Venus in the 12th house, you may find it difficult to express affection and love for one another. i have it conjunct in our davison3rd house- and opposite in4th-10th in composite. Posts: 28 From: Planet Earth Registered: Jan 2014: posted January 23, 2014 08:42 PM Hi, . Its time to clean up the karma between you, according to the position of the Nodes in the composite chart. We have the ultimate intimacy side by side with the knowledge of ultimate separateness. We have a meaningful journey to take together, but we must ultimately be alone. Chiron in Taurus 12 th House. We get along very well but our relationship is being kept in secret (which sucks) and the Saturn and Pluto opposite Asc. We also have composite venus in the 12th house. This last chance element, sadly, often leads us to relationships that are destined to exist only to fix this thingwhen the lesson is learned, both these people move on. His north node in his 12th in pisces which means he will have to travel from a more material existence to a spiritual one in his lifetime, but that could take another 20 years. If you dont like how someone operates, who cares how connected you are to them? Its a bit like getting knocked off your feet by a powerful waveyou and your partner are going to have to swim in the tide for a while, and deal with whatever watery beasties swim your way. When we split up I cried every day for a month. They rip the rug from under you every other day. Its a huge task, but often one the 12th house couple is uniquely suited for.]. One day , you said that people telegraph their natal theme at every instant of their lives. If we do things out of fear or for security, and we dont listen to the call to step onto our proper path in life, we are serving the ego instead of the soul. Me and my friend have composite sun conj. Can you say anything on the north node transiting the twelfth house on a composite? Obviously, I thought this man was my soulmate. We see each other regularly in our spiritual activities, and yet live on opposite coasts, and though dedicated to each other 100% as spiritual allies (and possibly more), we have no intentions of giving up our day-to-day independence. I am not an expert but this artical ssure proves the writer of it right! You dont want, on the whole, a composite Mars in the 12th square to Neptune, unless you are missionaries or you plan to open up a swimming pool installation company. In my experience, if you have a good synastry but a difficult composite, the couple get along with one another but have problems establishing the relationship in the outside world. The strong feeling of dissatisfaction also leads to feelings of emptiness-in actions and also in spirit. Will we stay together after we have learned our lesson together? Im a Pisces sun 7house. Knowing him has felt like a blessing and a curse, and yet, to this day, I do not regret falling in love with him that night 10 years ago. Everywords pounding in me. I am NOT usually like this. By the way, in progressions, you very clearly see the influence of both planets at work. Im not quick to say its an illusion, but its not quite real either, and you can get into some dangerous territory in the 12th by telling yourself things that arent really true. so beautiful and so healing especially the last paragraph. Im not exactly sure what our future holds, but I do know we are exactly where we are supposed to be XOXO ~ Thank you for the lovely insights!!! Im not wanting to drag him to the floor yet. I say empty.. no planet but Asteroid Osiris is 26 Aries. Also my moon is conjuct to his sun both ways. Pisces is the mutable water sign overseeing the 12th house. Lovely article. however, we are very well aspected with neptune in trine and sextile to our nodes, as our sun, but our vertex is opposed and conjucted. We have an interesting stellium in the 6th Uranus, Eros, Ceres, and Vertex all within a degree of each other. Sorry, Natalia, I cant really comment on this in the space available. The Davison chart is a time/space chart and is anchored in the here and now. I met with a guy 2 months ago and when we saw each other, -there is no doubt that- we were both fascinated by each other. Transit Neptune in the Composite 12th House. In our synastry my North Node/South Node axis is conjunct his MC/IC axis and his Moon conjuncts my IC. Usually, life will present us with huge dilemmas that cause us to choose between the ego and the soul path. Moon in Aries/7th, Saturn in the 5th/Aquarius. i imagine these aspects can point to a past life where there was dominance in the work field isuees? Loving and letting go, as well as maturing your love into a transcendant form of love where you are able to love so deeply that you give it the potential to annihilate you, yet you learn to let go and allow the natural changes in the state of our being has been a reoccurring theme of my life. intresting to know why its so bad. One or two aspects, especially in composite, do not carry the story. As far as the four major asteroids are concerned, I find that house position is not as important as aspect. Illusions yes I know. Separation from the Source may lead to existential pain. I found so many answers and maybe some dissapointments as well :/. I need help! It may have felt like chaos, but later on we know that there was method to the madness. When it comes to relationship troubles, try taking an alternative approach. In other words, that planetary energy might have to do with dealing with their collective, rather than personal, expression. Sometimes the twelfth house energies become lost, and we create false gods from what we cannot find within us (for example, those with Leo on the 12th house cusp may worship creative expression, but not be able to find it in themselves). Regine. VERY-VERY SORRY! We still keep in touch as just friends occasionally, and sometimes I feel like I am having conversations with him in my head. Composite Venus in the 12th House. Only his Juipter is in the 12th, I have no planets there but also we both also have ceres and lilith in the 12th. this is honestly so beautiful to read. My nn is conjunct his sun and mercury. In my opinion the midpoint composite is not really true, because our midpoint chart doesnt show the very intense physical love what we live together. You need to work on bringing body and mind together, as a couple. Its difficult because boundaries dissolve and we find it hard to maintain our separateness, which is necessary in a healthy relationship. We find with the Clinton composite chart (see chart at the top of the next page) that the planet Chiron conjunct Venus in the 3rd house, which semi-sextiles . This secrecy he is practising probably points to the venus-mars in composite twelfth ? The Chiron return often coincides. now chiron. Im always attracted to those types of relationships Outer planets have to do with things that are beyond our control. Often, Sun/Neptune relationships just fade away or dissolve without anyone knowing why. Neptune is in the 4th, Libra. I read our full synastry report, using dual cosmodynes, and the outcome was very positive and harmonic, scoring pretty much above the average! Oftentimes, once we surrender to the powers of the 12th house, our lives are transformed by meaning, because those unlikely connections have brought us a wisdom beyond our time together. The twelfth house is about vocation, our divine calling, and is a very different energy from the status-oriented tenth. In the end it was his choice to end it. Therefore difficult aspects to composite Chiron need to be noted. Eventually, we learn that life is not as random as we thought, but full of purpose and meaning. While separated from his girlfriend and in the final stages of breaking it off with her, we had several secret liaisons- more 12th house. 50 is also the average age of menopause and beginning of. In composite, we have sun, mercury and part of fortune in the 12th. He knows me better than I know myself at times. Is Your experience the same? Felt and feels karmic, but alas, it was definitely not meant to be.for now. Dear Dawn, Much of the time, putting faith in one another brings you joy. I am sufficiently haunted. We have (taurus) mars-venus conjunction on the 12th house and it is so real in our life: we need so strong the deep intimacy and the so close physical and spiritual nearness together, and it is better for us to be alone together for our happiness. Chiron in 12th House . Chiron In 1st House, Chiron In First House Meaning; Sun In 1st House, Sun In First . Our physical connection was addicting. 4 months passed since then. (One expression does not contra-indicate the other.). I met this men who i recall seeing 20 years ago once and a couple of other times within that 20 years. RUN ? Long story short it really bothered me that I can not tell him how I really feel about him because we are both ironically attending church but I felt that he really likes me as well. Sometimes we will be asked to make leaps of faith. Im afraid that you would need a full synastry reading in order to make sense of the situation for you and your wife. What is it that makes it work? By the way loved your above article and thank you for any info you provide : ) x, Thanks for writing this article. venus+mars, etc. Struggling against our own unconscious is not an easy thing Thanks so much Dawn. my davison chart has our sun, mercury and pluto in the 12. frequently i hear what he says in my head before he says it. The weirdness of the 12th usually happens when one or both of the other parties has a heavy 12th influence in the natal. I am a strong 12th house person- the sun in Libra conjunct Pluto/Mercury in Scorpio, with Saturn in Scorpio widely conjunct my Scorpio ascendent (I told you I was intense) and he has no planets in the 12th. thanks!! In synastry, his Pluto is in my 12th conjunct my ascendent tightly, and I have nothing in his 12th. The examination of two natal charts shows how people interact with one another==how I affect you, and vice versa. (I have my moon in Scorpio in the 12th house along with Saturn and Pluto). Saturn and Pluto and Ascedant. 12th house issues are not always supportive. The 12th house is the culmination of all that has come before it-it's our last chance, our last ride, and planets there can often go to extremes without knowing why (they can blame it on the limitless nature of Pisces, which respects no boundaries). but the rising is scorpio. My concern is a grand trine in the composite chart, Mercury/Jupiter/Venus all conjunct in the 1st (pisces) trine Moon/North node conjunct in the 5th (cancer) and Neptune the chart ruler in the 9th (Scopio). There is a certain someone whose natal Sun is in the 12 th, his sun also receiving a natal square from his Neptune. On the one hand We are meant to be on the other, But if we are, why is it so hard?, When a couple has planets, or an important planet, in the 12th, it can go a couple of ways. Your generation, the one with Pluto/Uranus opposite Saturn in Virgo/Pisces, came into this life with a huge burden. I dont know whether this situation is karma? Sense of self and feeling of completeness comes from your identification with the Divine. We are still friends and well always love each other. Ultimately, both the 12th house and Neptune want us to get our egos out of the way. scares me a bit. crone status for women. Noticed he has moved on and I want to let go and move on too, hoping that the story will not repeat itself again. What of mother-daughter pairs? In the composite chart, the composite 12th house can show what may be hidden in the relationship, what may play out subconsciously in the relationship, the karma of the relationship, and what needs to be let go of. His venus also opposed my Lilith in XII., his Pluto also trine my lilith in XII. Men with Chiron in the 12th House have a solid physical and mental constitution. In synastry, I have my sun, mercury, and mars in his 12th house in pisces, and his venus in my 12th house in cancer/gemini. A share a composite chart with a stellium of planets (Sun, Mercury, Uranus, and Neptune) in the 12th house with cusp on Scorpio. Unable to forget it? To use Jeff Greens analogy, the ego believes it is an independent entity, but a developed ego is like a wave; it knows it is moving towards the shore, but it also knows that it will return to the ocean to which it belongs, the place of the Source or universal spirit. We have a Sun, Venus, Ceres, Node, Lilith and Fortune in 12th house. Im kinda tired of dancing with men who enjoy attempting control and am tired of the endlessly unavailable creatures that keep crossing my path in life. And we both natally have same aspects, my mars is in my 12th and his moon is in his 12th also. Its hard for me to stop dreaming about this person. Pisces is the mutable water sign overseeing the 12th house. He told me he had butterflies I did too.his nn is conjunct my ascendant. Interesting description: it seems like weve followed ourselves around the country for each of our lives and not ever taking the time to learn about each other. A recent class in assassins revealed that the victims often had many planets in the shooters 12th house. !.the telepathy is overwhelming me. Also, forgive my double Virgo and the fact that I was once an editor: the phrase is unrequited love not unrequired. Sorry. (Our North Node rulers often lead us down these blind alleyways.) And youre so right, because there is something about the compo 12 th house ! He didnt want to commit/marry. This might lead to a sense of belonging and having a lot of things in common. He is a pisces/cap/aquar with cap moon in 12th house. This can happen in composites of unrequited love, where one person loves another who doesnt know he or she exists. Is there nothing better to hope for? All that subconscious provoking of each other is very much a full time job and its preventing me from being successful in life and meeting a man that can offer the support i need to really fly. I met her near the end of my Saturn return (Cancer in the 4th house) and I am aware of deep wounds in me around my need for nurturing and I wonder if my neediness in this area may have something to do with it all. I know that there is a purpose regarding this relationship, but i cant find it The empty space in Aries, would that be the outlet or where to focus all that energy? The Chiron return arrives at age 50, bringing for many a. pinnacle of achievement, authority, boldness, and charisma. As a 12th house person, I finally realized I enjoy the confusion. our composite mars-venus conjunction opposes composite uranus, sun, mercury all conjunct from seventh house. I really appreciate your take on the 12th house; it definitely resonates as true, from my experience. Happy holidays and thank you for this article. I have to come to grips with it (what you said) altough it is not an easy thing for me when it comes to love (being an Aries lol I want to love with a passion and not just except it as an idea). My mars falls in his 12th and his moon falls in my 12th. When transit Uranus is in the composite 12th house, you may make changes together but quietly behind the scenes, with no one watching. Thank you SO very much for this post. Sometimes the path isnt easy to find, and we make lots of mistakes along the way. The interesting thing is that we have a very unconventional relationship, mainly as friends and close allies in a spiritual cause (with the mission of saving the world, essentially), but with a new dimension of intense emotional and physical intimacy. Arent these positive aspects good enough to sustain a relationship down-to-earth, telling me to forgive and try again or just simply blowing the matter worse and prolonging it?. Our midpoint composit cannot show any true about our relationship. Hi WhitelotusI use both the Midpoint and the Davison charts in synastry. Sorry, aja, this is too much information to handle in this space. But my heart and mind keep telling me to fight again. I became reacquainted with a man I grew up with. My fiance and I have an exact conjunction of Sun/Mercury in the 12th in Taurus with Venus also being the chart ruler and placed in the 1st. do you have any clue of what this means or should i just ignore it? Sure someone up there wants to teach me a lesson (again!). This area of the chart talks about going on a journey to uncover your own secrets, subconscious, and psyche. I will always be exactly where I am now loving you. At all. The midpoint chart reveals the relationship on another level entirely. Curious about the sexual response (if there will be anything), its friendly. Its more complex than just the composite positions. We feel that very beautiful in our life! I feel so helpless! It confuses us, as is appropriate with a house that Neptune rules. yeah, i think we didnt invest much efforts in getting/staying togetherhowever, when I tried to pursue more, I felt as if I was more needy and I cared more about this relationship, as his respose to my efforts was quite blank and gruff. This can make them appear easily influenced by others, which could lead them to not knowing what direction they should take with their lives. Ive recently broke up with what was felt the love of my life the most pure and locvng relationship ever. It often helps to work together on projects they find meaningful, or to spend some time doing community or charity work. I can honestly say that I love this man from the highest level of my being, but I dont feel we belong together in a committed relationship. mars is trine composite sun, pluto, uranus jupiter and neptune- but square moon saturn. Well it is a living hell right now! I am at a point where Im in limbo and ready to let go if necessary, but I am paralyzed by the confusion and inability to understand whats at the root of what led us to this point.